HN 提问：谷歌是否扼杀了其企业主力模型？
2 分•作者: waldrews•13 天前
大家有没有因为 Gemini 2.5 模型（Pro、Flash）将于 10 月份停用而感到恐慌？而且目前还没有任何 Pro 级别的模型全面可用（存在地域限制等）。谷歌希望大家迁移到 3.x Flash，虽然在基准测试任务上优于旧的 Pro 模型，但在推理密集型任务（例如对超大型文档进行复杂推理，这是我的主要用例）上，它与 Pro 级别的模型并不相同。
Gemini 系列在文档理解方面拥有独特的优势，能够处理数千页的输入文档，仅需 30 万个 token。在 OpenAI 或 Anthropic 的产品中，即使 token 调整后的价格高出 10 倍以上，也找不到类似的功能。我们现在是否应该放弃谷歌，转而围绕竞争对手的限制进行工程设计并承担额外成本？这完全是谷歌团队不必要的失误。
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Is anyone else in a panic over the Gemini 2.5 model generation (Pro, Flash) being sunset in October before there's even any Pro class model in general availability (with geo restrictions etc.)? Google wants everyone to migrate to 3.x Flash, which beats the older Pro models on the benchmarked tasks, but isn't the same thing as the Pro class on reasoning-heavy tasks like complex reasoning on very large documents (my big use case).<p>The Gemini family had a distinct niche in document comprehension, with thousand page input documents taking only 300k tokens. Nothing quite like that in OpenAI or Anthropic world, even at more than 10x the token adjusted price. Should we just give up on Google at this point and engineer around the competitors' limits and eat the costs? Totally unnecessary own goal by team Google.