Reddit：互联网的死寂之心
1 分•作者: DenisDolya•大约 1 个月前
我尝试融入这个社区很久了，但徒劳无功。我从中得出的结论是：
他们的过滤机制太糟糕了。它们简直是为了确保只有社区成立之初就在的用户才能留下来。新用户几乎不可能通过审核过滤机制；我尝试了很久，写了支持性和有帮助的评论，并反复检查是否有重复的帖子，但尽管我付出了所有努力，我的账号最终还是被“影子禁封”（shadowbanned）了。
乍一看，似乎很容易就能合法地洗清自己的名声，但不幸的是，事实并非如此。你可以提交申诉数月，却只收到沉默的回应。
Reddit 还有一个非常有趣的机制，让你陷入一个恶性循环：“你因规避禁封而被封禁”——这是该公司最糟糕的想法之一。让我们想想，你该如何合法地解除这个封禁。答案是：申诉。是的，但你可以持续申诉数月，却只收到沉默的回应。更糟糕的是，他们可能会拒绝你的申诉——而且，正如他们喜欢做的那样，不给出任何理由。那么你还能做什么呢？什么也做不了。
因为你现在已经被他们盯上了，一旦你尝试用新账号登录——即使是 2-3 天后——他们就会认出是你，然后：你就会因为规避禁封而被封禁；如果你尝试使用 VPN，你还会因为使用 VPN 本身而被单独封禁——这是一个恶性循环。即使在现实生活中，一些刑事犯罪也不会导致终身监禁，但 Reddit 却可以毫不犹豫地对新账号上一个不当帖子做出这样的判决。你别无选择，只能把手机扔进垃圾桶，买一部新的设备，这样 Reddit 就认不出你了。
现在，再说 HN——它确实是互联网上过去十年未发生重大变化的最后一个净土，我对此非常感激。尽管社区只有少数几个主要版主和拥有高 karma 值可以“标记”帖子的人，但他们出色地控制了负面内容。我仍然惊叹于 Hacker News 如何在没有复杂过滤机制的情况下，几乎完全杜绝了垃圾邮件、广告和其他令人不快的内容。
我很高兴我能使用 HN。这里没有付费墙：没有皮肤，没有虚高的浏览量；没有严格的 karma 限制（当然有，但与 Reddit 相比，HN 的限制几乎不存在）。虽然不总是有对你的话题或问题感兴趣的人，但在我见识了 Reddit 社区之后，我只能说一句话——谢谢你，HN，感谢你的存在；请保持这样。
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I’ve been trying to fit into this community for a long time, but to no avail. And here’s the conclusion I’ve drawn from this:<p>Their filters are terrible. They’re literally set up to ensure that only those users who’ve been around since the community’s inception remain. It’s nearly impossible for a newcomer to get past the moderation filters; I tried for a long time, writing supportive and helpful comments and checking countless times for duplicate posts, but despite all my efforts, my accounts ended up shadowbanned.<p>At first glance, it might seem like it’s easy to legally clear your name, but unfortunately, that’s not the case. You can submit appeals for months and receive nothing but silence in response.<p>Reddit also has a very interesting way of trapping you in a vicious cycle: "You’ve been blocked for evading a ban" — this is one of the company’s worst ideas. Let’s think about what you can do to legally get this block lifted. The answer: an appeal. Yes, but you can keep filing it for months and get nothing but silence in response. What’s more, they might deny your appeal — and, as they love to do, without giving any reason for the denial. So what can you do then? Nothing.
Because now you’re on their watchlist, and as soon as you try to log in with a new account—even after 2–3 days — they’ll realize it’s you again, and that’s it: you’ll get banned for circumventing the ban; and if you try using a VPN, you’ll get a separate ban just for using one — it’s a vicious cycle. Even in real life, some criminal offenses don’t result in a life sentence, but Reddit is ready to do just that without a second thought for even a single inappropriate post on a new account. And you’ll have no choice but to throw your phone in the trash and buy a new device where Reddit won’t recognize you.<p>Now, about HN — it really is the last living space on the internet that hasn’t undergone major changes over the past 10 years, and I’m very grateful to them for that. Even though the community has only a few main moderators and people with high karma who can "flag" posts, they do an excellent job of keeping negative content in check. I’m still amazed at how, without complex filters, Hacker News still manages to have an almost complete absence of spam, ads, and other unpleasant topics.<p>I’m really glad I can use HN. There are no paywalls here: no skins, no inflated view counts; no strict karma restrictions (there are limits, of course, but compared to Reddit, the restrictions on HN are practically nonexistent). Although there won’t always be people interested in your topic or question, after what I’ve seen on the Reddit community, I can say only one thing — thank you, HN, for existing; please stay this way.