较新版本的 macOS 在 Intel 芯片上运行更慢(毋庸置疑)——是故意的还是“意外”?
6 分•作者: srevenant•5 天前
首先:如果您想说“买台PC”或“试试Linux”,请不要这么做。这是关于苹果/Mac/macOS硬件的问题。推荐Linux或其他系统没有帮助。
我有一台MacBook Pro,32GB内存,闪电般快速的NVMe硬盘。没有理由升级硬件。
我遵循了升级路径到他们的最新版本(Tahoe),他们宣布这是最后一个版本。
但它在某些操作下变得慢得令人难以忍受,非常痛苦。最明显的是屏幕共享,这让它彻底瘫痪。
我尝试了各种方法,从操作系统设置到其他一切——除了重新涂抹CPU上的导热膏。我甚至在我的一代之前(第一代触控栏)没有安全芯片的机器上安装了Fedora。Fedora运行得非常快。我甚至从Tahoe重新安装了干净的版本,没有区别。
这是不可否认的:苹果让新的macOS在Intel上运行得更慢。
我降级了两级到Sonoma。它又恢复到可以忍受的运行状态。
我绝对相信苹果会找各种借口来否认“我们不是故意削弱它的”,但无论是有意还是“哦,不小心发生了一点小事?”,这都不重要。
作为背景:在升级之前,我的Mac平均温度在74°C左右。如果我启动Zoom,它会飙升到100°C然后开始降频,让一切都无法使用。但不仅仅是Zoom。其他一些应用程序(尤其是Node生态系统中的那些)也会随着时间的推移变得非常缓慢。
现在我使用Sonoma,这种情况最令人沮丧的是它的明显性。我在Zoom中启动了屏幕共享,温度略有升高,然后又下降到比开始时更低。为什么?不知道。这完全是巧合,但关键在于温度没有升高。
我想要什么?也许苹果只是需要停止试图强迫人们使用一个被削弱的操作系统,让他们觉得需要购买新硬件。
我也很好奇其他人对整个情况的看法,或者你们自己的经历。
(背景:MacBook Pro16, 2019, 32G内存, AMD显卡)。再说一遍:我尝试了各种设置更改,包括启用/禁用GPU等。核心问题是窗口系统让一切运行得非常缓慢。
总结:如果您使用的是Intel Mac,请停留在Sonoma,不要再往上升级。
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FIRST: if you feel the urge to say "get a PC" or "try linux" please don't. This is about apple/mac/macos hardware. suggestions to linux or other things isn't helpful.<p>I have a macbook pro, 32G ram, lightning fast nvme drive. There is NO REASON to upgrade the hardware.<p>I've followed the upgrade path to their latest (Tahoe) and they announced this is the last.<p>But it has become UNBEARABLY slow and painful for some operations. Most notably screen sharing drives it into the ground.<p>I've tried all sorts of things from os settings to whatever--short of redoing the heat paste on the CPU itself. I even installed Fedora on a generation before mine without the security chip (the first gen touch bar). Fedora was /lightning/ fast. (I even re-installed fresh from Tahoe, no difference).<p>It is undeniable: Apple has made the newer MacOS run slower on Intel.<p>I downgraded two steps to Sonoma. And it's back to running in a bearable manner.<p>I'm absolutely confident Apple will have all sorts of plausible deniability around "we didn't nerf it on purpose" but whether it was with intent or "oooops did that little thing happen?" doesn't matter.<p>Just for context: prior to upgrading my mac would average around 74°c. If I started zoom it would spike up to 100°c and then start throttling, making everything unusable. But it wasn't just zoom. Some other apps (especially those in the node world) also would be come dog slow over time.<p>Now that I'm on Sonoma, and what's so frustrating about this situation, is how blatant it is. I started a screenshare in zoom, there was a small spike to the temperature, then it trended DOWN even lower than when I started. Why? No idea. This is entirely circumstantial, but the real key here is that it didn't go UP.<p>What do I want? Maybe Apple just needs to stop trying to push people to an OS that is nerfed so they'll feel like buying new hardware.<p>And I'm curious what others think about the whole situation, or your own experiences.<p>Steps off soapbox.<p>(Context: MacBook Pro16, 2019, 32G ram, AMD gpu). And again: i've tried all sorts of setting changes from enabling gpu/disabling/etc. The heart of it is the windowing system runs everything dog slow.<p>TL;DR: if on intel stop at Sonoma, do not go past that.