较新版本的 macOS 在 Intel 芯片上运行更慢(毋庸置疑)——是故意的还是“意外”?

6作者: srevenant5 天前
首先:如果您想说“买台PC”或“试试Linux”,请不要这么做。这是关于苹果/Mac/macOS硬件的问题。推荐Linux或其他系统没有帮助。 我有一台MacBook Pro,32GB内存,闪电般快速的NVMe硬盘。没有理由升级硬件。 我遵循了升级路径到他们的最新版本(Tahoe),他们宣布这是最后一个版本。 但它在某些操作下变得慢得令人难以忍受,非常痛苦。最明显的是屏幕共享,这让它彻底瘫痪。 我尝试了各种方法,从操作系统设置到其他一切——除了重新涂抹CPU上的导热膏。我甚至在我的一代之前(第一代触控栏)没有安全芯片的机器上安装了Fedora。Fedora运行得非常快。我甚至从Tahoe重新安装了干净的版本,没有区别。 这是不可否认的:苹果让新的macOS在Intel上运行得更慢。 我降级了两级到Sonoma。它又恢复到可以忍受的运行状态。 我绝对相信苹果会找各种借口来否认“我们不是故意削弱它的”,但无论是有意还是“哦,不小心发生了一点小事?”,这都不重要。 作为背景:在升级之前,我的Mac平均温度在74°C左右。如果我启动Zoom,它会飙升到100°C然后开始降频,让一切都无法使用。但不仅仅是Zoom。其他一些应用程序(尤其是Node生态系统中的那些)也会随着时间的推移变得非常缓慢。 现在我使用Sonoma,这种情况最令人沮丧的是它的明显性。我在Zoom中启动了屏幕共享,温度略有升高,然后又下降到比开始时更低。为什么?不知道。这完全是巧合,但关键在于温度没有升高。 我想要什么?也许苹果只是需要停止试图强迫人们使用一个被削弱的操作系统,让他们觉得需要购买新硬件。 我也很好奇其他人对整个情况的看法,或者你们自己的经历。 (背景:MacBook Pro16, 2019, 32G内存, AMD显卡)。再说一遍:我尝试了各种设置更改,包括启用/禁用GPU等。核心问题是窗口系统让一切运行得非常缓慢。 总结:如果您使用的是Intel Mac,请停留在Sonoma,不要再往上升级。
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FIRST: if you feel the urge to say &quot;get a PC&quot; or &quot;try linux&quot; please don&#x27;t. This is about apple&#x2F;mac&#x2F;macos hardware. suggestions to linux or other things isn&#x27;t helpful.<p>I have a macbook pro, 32G ram, lightning fast nvme drive. There is NO REASON to upgrade the hardware.<p>I&#x27;ve followed the upgrade path to their latest (Tahoe) and they announced this is the last.<p>But it has become UNBEARABLY slow and painful for some operations. Most notably screen sharing drives it into the ground.<p>I&#x27;ve tried all sorts of things from os settings to whatever--short of redoing the heat paste on the CPU itself. I even installed Fedora on a generation before mine without the security chip (the first gen touch bar). Fedora was &#x2F;lightning&#x2F; fast. (I even re-installed fresh from Tahoe, no difference).<p>It is undeniable: Apple has made the newer MacOS run slower on Intel.<p>I downgraded two steps to Sonoma. And it&#x27;s back to running in a bearable manner.<p>I&#x27;m absolutely confident Apple will have all sorts of plausible deniability around &quot;we didn&#x27;t nerf it on purpose&quot; but whether it was with intent or &quot;oooops did that little thing happen?&quot; doesn&#x27;t matter.<p>Just for context: prior to upgrading my mac would average around 74°c. If I started zoom it would spike up to 100°c and then start throttling, making everything unusable. But it wasn&#x27;t just zoom. Some other apps (especially those in the node world) also would be come dog slow over time.<p>Now that I&#x27;m on Sonoma, and what&#x27;s so frustrating about this situation, is how blatant it is. I started a screenshare in zoom, there was a small spike to the temperature, then it trended DOWN even lower than when I started. Why? No idea. This is entirely circumstantial, but the real key here is that it didn&#x27;t go UP.<p>What do I want? Maybe Apple just needs to stop trying to push people to an OS that is nerfed so they&#x27;ll feel like buying new hardware.<p>And I&#x27;m curious what others think about the whole situation, or your own experiences.<p>Steps off soapbox.<p>(Context: MacBook Pro16, 2019, 32G ram, AMD gpu). And again: i&#x27;ve tried all sorts of setting changes from enabling gpu&#x2F;disabling&#x2F;etc. The heart of it is the windowing system runs everything dog slow.<p>TL;DR: if on intel stop at Sonoma, do not go past that.