Ask HN: 在大语言模型时代，我们如何构建一个以人为本的全新在线社区？
3 分•作者: bluefirebrand•5 个月前
我基本上是在网上长大的，有一些一生的朋友也是在网上认识的。我珍视互联网上建立国际社区的真正潜力，这真的是独一无二的。<p>最近我发现自己对人工智能感到非常苦恼。我对于它渗透到生活的方方面面感到愤怒。不仅是我的工作和爱好，它似乎也在悄悄地侵入许多在线社区（包括这个！）。<p>我一直在思考，我们如何才能重建过去在网上拥有的信任。是的，机器人一直是个问题，但这远远超出了垃圾邮件发布。大型语言模型已经大规模地毒害了网络公共领域，而且可能无法回头了。说实话，这让我非常苦恼。<p>然而，这并不意味着我们不能找到一种新的、能够抵抗大型语言模型的方法。我不确定它具体会是什么样子，但我很好奇其他人有什么想法。<p>我的愿望清单是这样的：<p>* 能够抵抗大型语言模型的“渗透”，姑且这么说吧。我们应该能够相对有把握地相信另一端的人是真实的人类。<p>* 不需要放弃所有匿名性。它可能需要一些身份验证，但用户之间的互动至少应该是匿名的。<p>* 理想情况下，也能抵抗大型语言模型的抓取。我个人认为，现在公开分享作品，让大型语言模型摄取，会让人感到沮丧。<p>我知道这是一个很大的要求，可能也不现实。但我很好奇 Hacker News 对这种可能性有什么看法。<p>编辑：这部分灵感来自于最近在这里讨论的版主帖子：https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079<p>我尊重 Hacker News 的版主团队愿意在某种程度上依靠荣誉系统，但我认为在未来，我们需要一些严肃的想法来严格防止这种不受欢迎的行为，而不仅仅是希望人们友善。
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I basically grew up online and I have some lifelong friends I met online. I cherish the real potential for international community that can be built on the web, there really is nothing like it<p>I have been finding myself feeling very bitter about AI lately. I'm angry about how it's seeping into every aspect of life. Not just my work and my hobbies but it also seems to be creeping into many online communities (including this one!)<p>I have been thinking a lot about how we could possibly build any of the trust that we used to have online. Yes, bots have been a problem for a long time but this is so much further beyond spam posting. LLMs have poisoned the commons online At Scale and there's likely no going back. It has made me very bitter, I won't lie.<p>However that doesn't mean we can't find a way forward with something new that is somehow resistant to LLMs. I'm not sure what exactly that might look like but I'm curious what ideas others have had.<p>My wish list would be something that<p>* Is resistant to LLM "infiltration" for lack of a better word. We should be able to be relatively confident that people on the other end are real humans<p>* Does not require giving up all anonymity. It will likely require some identity authority but interactions between users should/could be pseudonymous at least<p>* Ideally is also resistant to LLM scraping. I personally find the thought of sharing work publicly now so LLMs can ingest it is demoralizing<p>I know it's a big ask and maybe not realistic. I'm curious what HN thinks about this possibility though<p>Edit: This was partially inspired by the recent mod post discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079<p>I respect that HN's mod team is willing to sort of leave this up to the honor system, but I think in the future we are going to need some serious ideas to strictly prevent this unwanted behavior, not just hope people will play nice