提问 HN:有人觉得最近这个社区变了吗?

4作者: kypro6 个月前
自从 2010 年以来,我一直用不同的马甲在 HN 上活跃,过去几年里,我感觉 HN 的质量直线下降,我的乐趣也随之减少。<p>今天我第一次开始质疑是否应该继续使用 HN,写这篇文章部分是为了探索我自己的想法,看看是否有人也有同样的感觉。<p>1. AI,AI,AI。<p>我理解。AI 是目前的大热门,但我发现关于 AI 的帖子从根本上来说不如过去这里发布的传统技术内容有趣。一篇包含某人对不同 AI 模型在画鹈鹕时进行比较的定性意见的帖子,在技术上不如这样的内容有趣,比如这个:https://nee.lv/2021/02/28/How-I-cut-GTA-Online-loading-times-by-70/<p>2. 还有人在 HN 上创业吗?<p>我再次理解。我在 2010 年代末期基本上放弃了尝试自己创业的想法。对于一个没有大量资金支持的单人创始人来说,这个行业变得太有竞争力了,成功的机会微乎其微。而现在,情况变得更加困难。但我认为这已经改变了 HN,它不再是一个你经常看到人们推出很酷的新项目的地方,而变成了一个人们只讨论最新的大型科技 AI 模型发布的地方。<p>3. 政治化和不宽容<p>我一直以来喜欢 HN 的一点是,它是一个非常开放的地方。而且在很多方面仍然如此,尤其与其他平台(如 X 和 Reddit)相比,但即使在这里,我也注意到评论变得更加片面,那些持有不太受欢迎的观点的人更容易被标记和踩。<p>也许只是我个人的感觉,但我从不踩或标记别人,除非我真的认为他们的评论很刻薄或严重违反了社区准则。<p>4. 只是我一个人吗?<p>我知道我对伴随我长大的互联网越来越怀旧…… 那个时候的一切都更加令人兴奋,但一切又都触手可及。像 YouTube 这样的网站是革命性的,但却是由三个人建立的。MySpace 和 Facebook 也是如此,它们也是由少数人拼凑起来的,至少在早期是这样。<p>今天,事情很少有新鲜感,一切都感觉遥不可及。AI,好吧,LLM,可能是多年来第一个“新”事物,但它们与之前出现的东西完全不同。过去的技术主要是由人为了人而构建的。LLM 是很酷的技术,但它们是由公司为了公司而构建的。YouTube 的建立是因为一些人认为建立一个网站与朋友分享视频会很酷。LLM 却没有发生这种情况。公司只是认为构建 AGI 会很有趣,于是投入数百万美元招募研究团队来尝试构建它。没有人要求它,而且我不确定硅谷以外的任何人是否想要它…… 这些从根本上来说是非人类的产品。它们的承诺不是为了娱乐或连接我们,而是为了自动化我们的工作,或者直接取代我们。
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I&#x27;ve been on HN under different aliases since 2010 and over the last couple of years I feel like the quality of HN has nosed dived and so has my enjoyment.<p>For the first time ever I questioned today whether I should continue to use HN anymore so I&#x27;m writing this partly to explore my own thoughts and to see if anyone else feels similarly.<p>1. AI, AI, AI.<p>I get it. AI is the big thing right now, but I find AI posts fundamentally less interesting than the traditional tech content that used to be posted here. A post containing someone&#x27;s qualitative opinion on how different AI models compare when drawing pelicans simply isn&#x27;t as technically interesting as something like this, https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nee.lv&#x2F;2021&#x2F;02&#x2F;28&#x2F;How-I-cut-GTA-Online-loading-times-by-70&#x2F;<p>2. Does any build startups here anymore?<p>Again, I get it. I largely quit trying to bootstrap my own startup ideas in the late 2010s. The industry became too competitive for a solo founder without significant financial backing to have much of a chance of success. And today it&#x27;s even harder. But I think this has changed HN from a place where you used to frequently see people launching cool new projects to a place where people just discuss the latest big tech AI model launch.<p>3. Politicisation and intolerance<p>One of the things I&#x27;ve always liked about HN was that it&#x27;s a very open minded place. And it still is in many ways, especially when compared to other platforms like X and Reddit, but even here I&#x27;ve noticed comments becoming more one-sided and those with less popular opinions more frequently being flagged and downvoted.<p>Perhaps it&#x27;s just me, but I never downvote or flag people unless I genuinely think their comment is cruel or aggressively disregarding the guidelines.<p>4. Is it just me?<p>I know I&#x27;ve become increasingly nostalgic to the internet I grew up with... Everything was so much more exciting back then, and yet everything felt so in reach. Sites like YouTube were revolutionary yet built by just three people. Same with sites like MySpace and Facebook which again were hacked together by a handful of people, at least in the early days.<p>Today things rarely feel new and everything feels so far from reach. AI, well LLMs, have probably been the first &quot;new&quot; thing for years now, yet they&#x27;re completely different from what&#x27;s come before. Past tech was primarily built by people for people. LLMs are cool tech, but they&#x27;re built by companies for companies. YouTube was built because some people thought it would be cool to build a website for sharing videos with friends. That didn&#x27;t happen with LLMs. Companies just thought it would be interesting to build AGI so invested millions of dollars recruiting teams of researchers to try to build that. No one is asking for it and I&#x27;m not sure anyone outside silicon valley even wants it... These are fundamentally inhuman products. Their promise isn&#x27;t to entertain or connect us, but to automate our work, or just outright replace us.