问 HN:如何摆脱对美国的依赖?
18 分•作者: yawa_me_worht•6 个月前
亲爱的美国朋友们,请不要误解我的意思——我热爱美国,在那里有朋友,也珍藏着在那里度过的美好回忆。
然而,美国似乎正在变成一个流氓、专制的国家,越来越像俄罗斯,对俄罗斯更加友好,对欧洲则充满敌意。我是一个在仍被俄罗斯占领的国家长大的欧洲人。我越来越担心在基于美国平台的项目上进行开发,使用美国的操作系统等等。
如果美国真的攻击格陵兰岛,或者找到另一种方式公开敌视欧洲怎么办?我不是说这一定会发生。我只是说,做好准备似乎是明智之举。你会怎么做?
目前,我无法完全摆脱对美国的依赖,但我希望尽量减少这种接触。
对于诸如建立 Visa/万事达卡的替代方案之类的事情,我无能为力(除了等待数字欧元),所以我将专注于我真正能做的事情,而忽略诸如我的政府购买 F-35 战斗机并将我的健康数据交给 Palantir 之类的事情。
* 手机——没有真正的欧洲替代品;只有苹果和谷歌。使用安卓系统的三星或 HTC 似乎是一个不那么糟糕的选择。
* 操作系统——我使用 Linux 已经很久了,摆脱 Windows 似乎相对容易。
* 社交网络——在现任美国政府之前,我就开始讨厌它们了,从未使用过 TikTok 或 Instagram,而且在马斯克收购 Twitter 之后,我基本停止使用 Facebook 和 Twitter。
* Stripe 支付——这会很难,但我正在尝试使用我们当地的支付处理商,到目前为止,它似乎出乎意料地可行,但它不像 Stripe 那样是经过实战检验的解决方案。
* Clerk 身份验证——可行,但需要大量工作和担忧。
* AWS——我在 AWS 上有一次出乎意料的糟糕体验,然后切换到了一家本地供应商,它的功能少了很多(而我基本不需要),但支持好很多。
* GitHub、Cloudflare……天啊,我们欧洲人怎么能允许自己如此依赖任何人?我接触的一切都是美国的。
* Gmail——这会很难(二十年的电子邮件)。有什么建议吗?
* 任何与人工智能相关的东西——完蛋了,我在这里迷失了方向。
我遗漏了什么/忘记了什么?如果我是你,会怎么做?
我真的希望你们能把它当作一个头脑风暴练习,而不是对美国的攻击。我真的很爱美国,希望它的民主比目前看起来的更有韧性。
编辑:请尽量保持回复的实用性。我们不要把它变成政治讨论。你可以把它当作一个“如果”的练习,即使你认为现任美国政府所做的事情很棒,欧洲人活该等等。
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Dear Americans, please don’t take this the wrong way - I love the US, have friends there, and treasure memories I made there.<p>However, it seems plausible that the US is turning into a rogue, authoritarian, Russia-like state increasingly more friendly towards Russia and hostile towards Europe. I am a European who grew up in a country still occupied by Russia. I am increasingly more worried about building my projects on American platforms, using an American operating system, etc.<p>What if the US actually attacks Greenland or finds another way to be openly hostile to Europe? I am not saying it will happen. All I am saying is that it seems prudent to prepare. How would you do it?<p>It is currently impossible to unhook myself from the US, but I would like to minimize exposure.<p>I can’t do anything about things like building an alternative to VISA/MasterCard (except wait for the digital Euro), so I will focus on things I can actually do and ignore things like my government buying F-35s and possibly giving my health data to Palantir.<p>* Mobile phone - there are no real European alternatives; it’s just Apple vs Google. Samsung or HTC with Android seems like a less bad option.<p>* Operating system - I have been using Linux for ages, getting rid of Windows seems relatively easy.<p>* Social networks - I grew to hate them before the current US admin, never used TikTok or Instagram, and I mostly stopped using Facebook and Twitter around the time Musk bought Twitter.<p>* Stripe for payments - this will be hard, but I am experimenting with our local payment processor, and so far it seems surprisingly doable, but it is not a battle-tested solution like Stripe.<p>* Clerk authentication - doable, but a lot of work and worrying<p>* AWS - I had a surprisingly bad experience with AWS and switched to a local provider with a lot less functionality (that I mostly do not need) and a lot better support<p>* GitHub, Cloudflare... dear God, how could we Europeans allow ourselves to be that dependent on anyone? Everything I touch is American.<p>* Gmail - this will be hard (two decades of emails). Any advice?<p>* Anything AI-related - fuuu, I am lost here.<p>What am I missing/forgetting? What do/would you do in my place?<p>I really hope you will take this as a brainstorming exercise and not an attack on America. I really do love the US and hope its democracy turns out to be more resilient than it currently seems.<p>EDIT: Please kindly keep responses practical. Let’s not turn this into a political discussion. You might approach it as a “what if” exercise, even if you think what the current US admin is doing is great, Europeans deserve what they get, etc.