我怀念 Web 2.0
7 分•作者: geuis•8 个月前
我 2007 年搬到了旧金山。
那时候，Twitter 在 2005 年于奥斯汀推出。
我曾在 Lower Haight 的 Cafe du Soleil 见过 Instagram 的创始人，那时它还是一个很棒的小网站和应用程序，有一个可爱的复古相机图标。
我参加了 2008 年或 2009 年在华盛顿特区举办的第一届 JSconf。会议的氛围是早期尝试为 JS 创建早期的服务器端运行时。我想 Ryan Dahl 可能参加了那次会议。Coffeescript 也有参与，CouchDB 背后的家伙们也宣布了他们的东西。我忘了，但如果 Node 没在那次会议上宣布，也很快就会了。我记得在会议上了解了一个名为 llmjs 或类似名称的竞争项目。我想是日本开发者做的。
创建 jQuery 的 John Resig 算是个小名人。我们一起坐了电梯。我太紧张/激动了，甚至没能好好打招呼。很奇怪，我见过名人，这有点正常但很无聊。但当我和一个和我年龄相仿的、身材矮小的普通人站在一起，他却创造了至今仍在使用的最大工具之一，这让我大脑一片空白。大约十年前，当我遇到 Tested 的 Norm 时，也发生了类似的事情。显然，当我的大脑在这种情况下卡住时，我的一个奇怪的默认行为是握手时间过长。对不起 Molly Wood，CNET 的老播客。很高兴见到你。
现在科技界似乎没有任何乐趣了。过去感觉充满了无限的可能性。很多过去那些探索和乐趣的实验都变成了由投资者控制的盈利机器。
20 年前那些让我充满灵感和创造力的东西，现在都失去了所有的人文精神。
目前流行的产品中存在很多应该很容易解决的问题。但企业巨头们要么不在乎，要么只批准那些经过 100 个 A/B 测试或不同蓝色色调后，用户参与度只有 0.02 的改变。
YouTube 的移动网站搜索功能很差，尽管它背后有有史以来最大的搜索引擎。
Audible 是最大的有声读物市场，但他们却积极地对他们的核心受众、真正制作产品的叙述者和作者都抱有敌意。这里指的是虚拟声音，以及更多其他问题。
eBay 还是 eBay。实际上没什么可说的。我给个带小表情符号眼睛的爱心，只是因为他们在 90 年代就找到了自己的市场，并且基本上坚持了下来。可能有一些小地方可以改进，但总的来说，他们抓住了自己的市场并坚持了下来。制作纸板箱没什么错。虽然生意很无聊，但每个人都需要箱子，如果你明白我的意思。
总之，让我们回到 Web 2.0。注意到从来没有 3.0 吗？很多骗子和 MBA 人士都试图强行推动它（web3 eth 币圈等等）。但这都是与企业和/或骗子相关的废话，没有任何真实性。而且这至少是 10 年来的常态。
为了结束我的漫游，我想重新找回 20 年前的快乐。也许它一直都在发生，只是我老了。但我不这么认为。从学校毕业的年轻人似乎过度专注于赚钱或诈骗（代发货、AI 垃圾、诈骗等等）。他们似乎什么都不懂。所有这些聪明的年轻人被训练得失去了我们曾经拥有的自我发现的乐趣，这似乎很糟糕。
我最近遇到的有趣的事情是几周前在 HN 上出现的小型多人传递消息游戏。感觉很好。
让我们再多做一些那样的事情吧。
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I moved to SF in 2007.<p>In those days, Twitter had launched in 2005 in Austin.<p>I met the founders of Instagram at Cafe du Soleil in Lower Haight back when it was this awesome little site and app with a cute retro camera icon.<p>I went to the first JSconf in Washington DC in 2008 or 2009. The vibe at the conference were early exercises into creating early server side runtimes for JS. I think Ryan Dahl might have been at that conference. Coffeescript had a presence, and the guys behind CouchDB announced their thing. I forget but if Node wasn't announced there, it was soon after. I remember a competing project called llmjs or something like that I learned about at the conference. I think it was a Japanese dev behind it.<p>John Resig, the guy that created jQuery was a small celebrity. We shared an elevator ride. I was too nervous/excited to even say hello properly. It's weird that I've met celebrities and it's kinda normal but boring. But standing 3 feet from an otherwise normal, somewhat short dude of my own age who built one of the biggest tools still being used today locked my brain up. Similar thing happened about ten years ago when I ran into Norm from Tested. Apparently I have a weird default behavior of shaking hands too long when my brain locks up in these situations. Sorry Molly Wood, old CNET podcaster. Was nice to meet you though.<p>There doesn't seem to be any joy in tech anymore. Used to feel like endless possibilities. A lot of those old experiments in discovery and fun have become investor controlled profit machines.<p>All of the human spirit has been drained out of the things that 20 years ago made me inspired and inventive.<p>There's so many problems in popular current products that should easily be addressed. But the corpo overlords either don't care or only approve changes that 100 a/b tests or shades of blue get a 0.02 level of user engagement.<p>YouTube's mobile web site has terrible search, despite being backed by the biggest search engine ever.<p>Audible is the biggest audiobook market, yet are actively hostile to both their core audience, the narrators who actually make the product, and the authors. Talking about virtual voice among a much longer list of issues.<p>eBay is still eBay. Actually not much to talk about. I give a heart with little emoji eyes just because they figured out their market in the 90s and have basically stuck with it. Maybe some small things that could be different but overall they nailed their market and have stuck to it. There's nothing wrong with making cardboard boxes. Boring business but everyone needs boxes, if you get my point.<p>Anyway let's get back to Web 2.0. Notice how there's never been a 3.0? A lot of scammers and MBA folks have tried to force it (web3 etho crypto blah blah). But it's all been corporate and/or scammer related BS, nothing authentic. And this has been the norm for at least 10 years.<p>To end my wanderings, I'd like to rediscover the joy from 20 years ago. Could be that it's always happening and I'm older. But I don't think so. Younger folks coming out of school seem hyper focused on making money or swindling (drop shipping, AI slop, grifting, etc). They don't seem to know anything else. It seems awful that all of these smart young folks have been trained out of the joy of self discovery that we used to have.<p>The latest fun thing I ran into was the little multiplayer deliver messages game that showed up on HN a week or two ago. That felt good.<p>Let's do more of that again.