Ask HN:通用人工智能(AGI)的标准有多高?哪些问题是“AGI 完全”的?

2作者: adinhitlore9 个月前
我猜“AGI”(通用人工智能)和“ASI”(超级人工智能)背后的命名法仍然存在争议。我刚看完桑达尔·皮查伊(在Lex Fridman的采访中)的采访,他巧妙地嘲讽了这个术语,本质上将其描述为一个新近的发明,一个主要用来表示“我们的AI很快就会非常先进”的新词。 即便如此,我的问题是:截至2025年9月,即使是最顶尖的AI也无法解决哪些问题? 我可以想到很多,但由于它们目前尚未解决,因此对任何人或人类工具来说,它们也可能都是不可能的: *以下是一些随机排序的“随口”问题: 1. P ≠ NP; 2. 广义相对论与量子力学的统一; 3. 证明/证伪黎曼猜想; 4. “孤独跑者猜想”的证明/证伪; 5. 治愈四期癌症,且大多数情况下有效; 6. 数量级上更冷的核聚变; 7. 无反作用力驱动——证明/证伪; 8. 证明(展示)/证伪“量子霸权”; 9. 在量子计算机上安装用户友好的主要用途操作系统; 10. 类人机器人击败UFC格斗选手; 11. 类人机器人比Storror更好地进行跑酷; 12. AI设计出比Transformer更快数量级的文本生成/媒体生成算法,且不牺牲质量(或偏差仅差5-10%); 13. AI制造出自复制机器人,在火星上建造城市(这个想法是我从Grok那里偷来的...); 14. 找到制造廉价体外培养肉的方法; 15. 合成ununennium(119号元素); 16. 对量子力学的正确解释; 17. 解决“时间问题”; 18. 制造胶球; 19. 证明/否定考拉兹猜想; 还有很多... 你认为哪些问题是类似AGI的问题? 我知道我上面对问题的措辞并不完美,例如“廉价”在体外培养肉中是开放的解释,而100万度的聚变仍然比实际需要的温度低大约2个数量级,但可能对主流聚变没有影响等等。但毕竟这是一个互联网论坛,而不是博士论文,无论如何,如果任何问题得到解决,尽管措辞糟糕,都将标志着AI或任何它“标志”的东西发生巨大的范式转变,有人/某些人将做得非常正确,甚至超越Demis Hassabis,甚至爱因斯坦、达芬奇、特斯拉、Ada等人。 我很好奇很多人希望从AI中看到什么,由于这个论坛的智商很高,我猜它不会是像“逼真FPS”或“听起来像Shelby的特斯拉”或“更美味的汉堡”、“超酷的喷气背包”、“可以采访Andrew Tate的完全沉浸式VR”、“敞篷波音”等等之类的“比佛利和巴特黑德”级别的答案。
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I guess the nomenclature behind &quot;AGI&quot; and &quot;ASI&quot; is still debatable and i just watched an interview with Sundar Pichai (on Lex Fridman) where he brilliantly almost mocked the term, essentially describing it as a recent invention, neologism mostly used to mean &quot;our ai will soon be very advanced&quot;.<p>Even so my question is: what problems as of 2025 September are impossible for even the best AI? I can think of many, though since they are currently unsolved, they may as well be impossible regardless for any human or human tool anyway:<p>*here are some problems ordered randomly, &quot;on top of my head&quot;:<p>1. P =|!= NP; 2.Unification of gen. relativity+quantum mechanics; 3. prove&#x2F;disprove the Riemann hypothesis; 4. &quot;lonely runner conjecture&quot; proof&#x2F;disproof; 5. cure for 4th stage cancer that works most of the time; 6. orders of magnitudes colder fusion; 7. reactionless drive - proof&#x2F;disproof; 8. prove(show)&#x2F;disprove &#x27;quantum supremacy&#x27;; 9. install user-friendly main purpose OS on quantum computer; 10. humanoid defeats ufc fighter in a fight; 11. humanoid performs parkour better than Storror; 12. AI designs orders of magnitude faster textgen&#x2F;mediagen algorithms than transformers without sacrificing quality (or 5-10% worse deviation); 13. AI builds self-replicating robots that build city on Mars (i stole this idea from Grok month ago or so...); 14. discovers way to make cheap invitro meat; 15. synthesizes ununennium; 16. correct interpretation of quantum mechanics; 17. solve the &#x27;problem of time&#x27;; 18. make glueballs; 19. prove&#x2F;reject the Collatz conjecture;<p>and many more...what in your opinion are agi-like problems?<p>I know my phrasing of the problems above isn&#x27;t perfect, for example &quot;cheap&quot; as in invitro meat is open to interpretation and 1 million degrees fusion is still ~2 &#x27;orders of magnitude&#x27; colder but likely useless to have impact on mainstream fusion etc. But it&#x27;s an internet forum after all not Ph.d thesis, regardless any of the problems if solved despite the horrible wording will signal an immense paradigma shift in AI or whatever it &quot;signals&quot; someone&#x2F;some people will be doing something very right surpassing even Demis Hassabis, or even Einstein, Da Vinci, Tesla, Ada and the likes.<p>I&#x27;m curious what many people want to see from AI, since the IQ of this forum is high, I guess it won&#x27;t be a beavis-and-butthead level of answers like &quot;photorealistic fps&quot; or &quot;teslas that sound like shelby&quot; or &quot;tastier burgers&quot;, &quot;badass jetpacks&quot; , &quot;fully immersive VR where you can interview andrew tate&quot;, &quot;cabrio boeing&quot;, etc etc.