告诉 HN：我申请了 450 个职位后才被录用的经验之谈
1 分•作者: usernamed7•9 个月前
我想简单分享一下我作为一名拥有 15 年经验的资深工程师，在这个市场找工作的经历，因为这对我来说非常煎熬，我相信其他人也会喜欢这种视角。<p>正如标题所说，我申请了 450 多个职位。 多数公司甚至没有给我发拒绝信。 幽灵职位是真实存在的，虚假职位也存在，目的是让你注册/加入一些不知名的招聘网站。<p>我面试了一个工程总监的职位，所有面试都很顺利，但最后他们却把我给“放鸽子”了。<p>我做了几个家庭作业，都通过了，但公司在后续步骤上却拖拖拉拉。<p>我确实拒绝了一些类型的职位：那些使用 AI 面试我的，那些让我把编码挑战作为第一步的，以及那些“没有工作时间”却希望你 24/7“在线”的职位。<p>许多求职者希望我回答一些愚蠢的问题，比如“你对这个职位有什么兴奋点？”并且会说“不要使用 AI！我们希望看到真实的你”，甚至会试图让你同意他们的 AI 面试政策。 简直是开玩笑。<p>我最终被聘为一名软件架构师。 聘用我的公司非常专业、尊重人、具有前瞻性（我在面试中使用冲浪），并且没有和我玩花招。 他们有 4 个面试步骤，并问了很多好问题。 这是我职业生涯中最好的面试流程之一。<p>我对其他正在找工作的工程师的建议：<p><pre><code>1) 广撒网。 如果大致符合，就申请。 这是一个数字游戏。 要脸皮厚。
2) 随时准备走人。 保护你的时间。 不要把时间浪费在需要很长时间才能完成的冗长职位申请上。 一些招聘经理会很乐意浪费你的时间。（一个职位申请明确要求你花 20 分钟填写他们的申请）
3) 在与某人面试之前不要做编码练习，要警惕不对称的时间支出。 参见第 2 条。
4) 你可能可以胜任很多不同的职位，例如，“提示工程师”就是一个公司正在招聘的真实职位头衔。
5) 使用几个不同的求职平台。 例如，我使用了 LinkedIn、Dice、ZipRecruiter、weworkremotely 和 rubyonremote 以及其他一些平台。
6) 使用 AI 生成你的简历，但要向它提供你工作经历的所有背景信息（不要歪曲你的技能）
7) 使用 AI 填写愚蠢的职位申请问题，但如果他们问你一些有深度的问题，就自己回答。 我之所以获得工程总监的面试机会，是因为我真实地回答了有深度的问题。
8) 把握节奏。 每天花几个小时，然后一两天后再来一次。
9) 同时做一个副业项目或学习一门新的语言/框架。
10) 面试就像约会，每个人都在寻找不同的东西，有些人真的不知道自己想要什么。 这不是你的问题。
11) 如果他们使用 Workday 进行职位申请，就放弃。 这是最糟糕的。
12) 随着职位的出现，需要时间。 你最终得到的职位可能要到 2 个月后才会开放。 参见第 1 条。
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I wanted to briefly share my experience as a senior engineer with 15 years of experience trying to find work in this market, because it was exhausting for me and i'm sure others will appreciate the perspective.<p>As the title says, I have applied to over 450 positions. Most companies did not even send me a rejection. Ghost jobs are a thing, so are fake roles to get you to signup/join some rando job board.<p>I interviewed for a director of engineering role, and all interviews went well, but they ghosted me at the end.<p>I did several take homes and all were accepted, but companies dragged their feet on next steps.<p>I did reject a few kinds of roles: ones that used AI for interviewing me, ones that had me do a coding challenge as the first step, and jobs that had "no working hours" and expected you to be "on" 24/7.<p>Many of the job applicant expected me to answer asinine questions like "what excited you about this role?" and would say things like "don't use AI! we want your true self" or would go so far as to try to get you to agree to their AI interview policy. As If.<p>I eventually did get hired as a software architect. the company that hired me was very professional, respectful, forward thinking (i used windsurf during the interview) and did not play games with me. They had a 4-step interview process, and asked a lot of good questions. One of the best interview processes of my career.<p>My advice to other engineers on the job market:<p><pre><code> 1) Spray and pray. If its vaguely a fit, apply. It's a numbers game. Be shameless.
2) Always be willing to walk. Protect your time. Don't waste your time on lengthy job applications that take too long to complete. Some hiring managers will gladly waste your time. (one job application explicitly wanted you to spend 20 minutes filling out theirs)
3) Don't do coding exercises before you interview with someone, be weary of asymmetrical time expenditures. see #2.
4) You can probably do a lot of different roles, "prompt engineer" is a real job title companies are hiring for, for example.
5) Work a couple of different job platforms. For example I used linkedin, dice, ziprecruiter, weworkremotely, and rubyonremote and a few others.
6) Use AI to generate your resume, but feed it all the context of your work history (don't misrepresent your skills)
7) Use AI to fill out asinine job application questions, but if they ask you thoughtful questions answer those yourself. I got the interview for director of engineering because i answered authentically to thoughtful questions.
8) Pace yourself. Spend a few hours a day at it then come back in a day or two and go again.
9) Work on a side project or learn a new lang/framework in parallel.
10) Interviewing is like dating, everyone is looking for something different, and some don't really know what they want. Not a you problem.
11) If they use workday for their job applications, bounce. It's the worst.
12) It takes time as roles become available. The job you end up getting might not open until 2 months from now. see #1.</code></pre>