Ask HN: Claude Code 式 Agent，但类似 Aider 且与模型无关？
1 分•作者: dsrtslnd23•10 个月前
我不使用 UI 集成的编码助手；我用 Aider。主要用 Gemini 2.5 Pro，有时也用 o3——用久了你就知道哪个模型擅长什么了。<p>我想要更具 agentic 能力的工具（比如跨仓库的编辑），而且大家都一直在吹捧 Claude Code。所以我就咬牙买了 Pro 版（只能用 Sonnet）。<p>- 喜欢它的 agentic 行为——尤其是在调试分布式系统（AWS CloudWatch/Lambda/SQS/CloudFormation）时。这在 Aider 里得手动复制粘贴，会非常痛苦。<p>- 但“Pro”订阅在约 3 小时后就用完了，Claude 让我等“几个小时”。令人失望。<p>我直接升级到了 Max，获得了 Opus 的访问权限。不错——Opus 确实好用。但 Sonnet 却令人失望：它会犯很多初学者才会犯的错误，而我在 Gemini 2.5 Pro 或 o3 上从未见过，这只会浪费我的时间。<p>然后我发现我的 Opus 配额在不到 30 分钟内就用完了，我不得不等几个小时或者退回到 Sonnet。花钱买了“Max”却这么快就用完了，这让我想起了我为什么避免这种模糊的配额订阅。（后来我了解到，理论上你也可以通过计量 API 使用 Claude Code。）<p>主要结论：<p>- Claude Code 的 agent 行为很棒（而且我还没用过 MCP）。<p>- Sonnet 很差劲。<p>- Opus 很好——但基本上在 Max 订阅下无法使用！？<p>问题：有没有什么工具可以和 Claude Code 媲美，但更像 Aider，这样我就可以接入任何 LLM？我见过一些“黑客”可以通过包装器用其他模型运行 Claude Code，但感觉不太成熟。<p>大家都在用什么？
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I don’t use UI-integrated coding assistants; I live in Aider. Mostly on Gemini 2.5 Pro, sometimes o3—after a while you learn which model shines at what.<p>I wanted something more agentic (simple things like edits across repos), and everyone kept hyping Claude Code. So I bit the bullet: signed up for Pro (Sonnet-only).<p>- Loved the agentic behavior—especially for debugging a distributed system (AWS CloudWatch/Lambda/SQS/CloudFormation). That would’ve been a ton of manual copy/paste pain in Aider.<p>- But the “Pro” subscription hit the wall after ~3 hours and Claude told me to wait “a couple of hours.” Disappointing.<p>Upgraded straight to Max, got Opus access. Nice—Opus is good. Sonnet, though, was a disappointment: lots of beginner mistakes I never see with Gemini 2.5 Pro or o3, so it just wastes my time.<p>Then I discovered my Opus quota was gone in under 30 minutes and I had to wait hours or fall back to Sonnet. Paying for something called “Max” and hitting brakes that fast reminded me why I avoid vague quota subs. (Later I learned you can theoretically use Claude Code via metered API, too.)<p>Main takeaways:<p>- Claude Code agent behavior is great (and I didn’t even touch MCP yet).<p>- Sonnet is bad.<p>- Opus is good—but basically unusable on a Max subscription!?<p>Question: Is there anything comparable to Claude Code but more Aider-style so I can plug in whatever LLM? I’ve seen some “hacks” to run Claude Code with other models via wrappers, but they feel half-baked.<p>What are folks using?