Launch HN:Promi (YC S24) – 个性化电商折扣和零售优惠
5 分•作者: pmoot•10 个月前
嘿,HN!我是 Promi 的 Peter。我们正在为电商商家构建一个平台,用于发送实时个性化折扣,并由 AI 优化(显而易见)。
销售视频:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiO1S7RBn-o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiO1S7RBn-o)
演示:[https://youtu.be/BCYNCqb4fUc](https://youtu.be/BCYNCqb4fUc)
网站:www.promi.ai
所有大型科技公司都会发送个性化折扣——Uber、DoorDash、Google 等。事实上,我曾是 Uber 负责折扣的产品负责人,所以如果你在 Uber 乘车或外卖上收到过促销,那就是我们的技术。这些个性化模型通常比非个性化折扣产生 30% 以上的收入(即成本中性),所以这是一个极具影响力的产品。
因此,其他商家也想效仿也就不足为奇了。商家不想把折扣浪费在本来就会购买的客户身上。坦白说,提供软件解决方案来个性化折扣并不是一个新想法——很多其他初创公司都推出了类似的产品。
对于中小型公司来说,个性化折扣的最大问题在于,传统上你依赖于“探索”数据——从随机向一部分用户发送折扣中获取的数据。但这有很多问题:商家需要规模足够大,收集这些数据很昂贵,训练数据确实应该保持新鲜(所以应该持续运行探索),而且如果你想尝试不同的折扣结构(例如,买一送一而不是 8 折),你需要使用新的结构运行新的探索。
那么 Promi 的不同之处是什么?我们基于常规流量进行训练,并通过专注于转化率来简化问题。如果我们能准确预测谁不太可能转化以及哪些产品不太可能被购买,我们就可以发放折扣,而不用担心把钱浪费在本来就会发生的订单上。我在 Uber 期间的主要收获之一是,我们的模型主要针对那些在给定一周内转化可能性较低的用户。量化他们在获得折扣后通过探索转化率提高多少是有帮助的,但不如了解初始转化率那么有影响力。
旁注——在这个没有实际使用最新和最伟大的 LLM 的炒作周期中推出一家 AI 公司有点意思。我们认为更传统的机器学习仍然有很多价值可以增加。我不想说我们将来不会使用 LLM(在开发附加功能方面可能有一些有趣的应用程序),但以这种方式开始对我们来说效果很好。
还有很多其他挑战(就像任何初创公司一样)。我们必须弄清楚如何自动化集成,因为很多网站都有自定义代码。我们必须让模型在没有丰富用户数据的情况下也能工作,因为大多数网站访问者都没有登录。在这里快速提一下——我们可以使用第一方 cookie 来或多或少地跟踪浏览和交易历史,但我们发现转化率的一个重要预测因素是流量来源:访问者是来自广告、电子邮件、直接流量、谷歌搜索等。这种流量来源在 Uber 并不那么有价值(因为每个人都使用该应用程序),所以在最具影响力的功能类型方面,这有点权衡取舍。
我们的模型似乎运行良好!我们的网站上有案例研究,展示了我们看到的典型收入和利润增长。我们目前采用分级定价,对 Promi 折扣管理的总收入有不同的配额。
我很乐意听取社区中机器学习专家的想法,尽管我声明一下,我不是技术创始人。请告诉我们你的想法!
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Hey HN! I’m Peter from Promi. We’re building a platform for ecommerce merchants to send realtime personalized discounts, optimized with AI (obviously)<p>Sales Video: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiO1S7RBn-o" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiO1S7RBn-o</a><p>Demo: <a href="https://youtu.be/BCYNCqb4fUc" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/BCYNCqb4fUc</a><p>Website: www.promi.ai<p>All the big tech companies send personalized discounts - Uber, DoorDash, Google, etc. In fact, I was the product lead overseeing discounts at Uber, so if you’ve gotten a promotion on Uber Rides or Eats, that was our tech. These personalization models often generate >30% more revenue vs. non-personalized discounts (cost-neutral that is), so this is a hugely impactful product.<p>It’s no surprise then that other merchants want to follow suit. Merchants don’t want to waste discounts on customers who would have purchased anyway. Frankly it’s not a new idea to offer a software solution to personalize discounts - plenty of other startups have entered this space with a similar product.<p>The biggest problem with personalizing discounts for mid-size and smaller companies has been that traditionally you rely on ‘explore’ data - data from randomly sending out discounts to a portion of the user base. But this has a lot of problems: merchants need to be large, collecting this data is expensive, training data really should be fresh (so explores should constantly be running), and if you want to try a different discount structure (e.g. BOGO instead of 20% off) you’ll need to run a new explore with the new structure.<p>So what does Promi do differently? We train on regular traffic and simplify the problem by just focusing on conversion rate. If we can accurately predict who is unlikely to convert and which products are unlikely to be bought, we can issue discounts without the fear of burning money on an order that would have happened anyway. One of my major takeaways from my time at Uber was that our model was mostly targeting users who had a low likelihood of converting in a given week. Quantifying how much more likely they were to convert when given a discount via explores was helpful, but not as impactful as understanding starting conversion rate.<p>Side note - It’s been a bit interesting launching an AI company during this hype cycle that isn’t actually using the latest and greatest LLMs. We believe more traditional machine learning still has a lot of value to add. I don’t want to say we won’t use LLMs down the road (there may be some interesting applications for developing additional features), but starting this way has worked out well for us.<p>There have been plenty of other challenges (as with any startup). We’ve had to figure out how to automate integrations when so many websites have custom code. We’ve had to make the model work without rich user data since the majority of website visitors aren’t logged in. A quick note in this one - we can use first party cookies to more or less track the view and transaction history, but we’ve found that one big predictor of conversion is traffic source: whether a visitor is coming from ads, email, direct traffic, google search, etc. That traffic source isn’t something as valuable at Uber (since everyone uses the app), so it’s been a bit of a tradeoff in the types of features that are most impactful.<p>Our model seems to be working well! We have case studies on our website showing the typical revenue and profit lift we see. We currently have tiered pricing with different quotas for the amount of revenue managed by Promi discounts.<p>I’d love to get thoughts from the machine learning experts in this community, though full disclosure I’m the non-technical founder. Let us know what you think!